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Purchases and sales of a van as a self-employed person in a secondary occupation

PK
13/05/2024
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Five years ago, I bought a van that was two years old at the time, and it is now fully depreciated. I bought it from a private person, so I did not receive an invoice, only a sales agreement with the price on it. This means I was unable to reclaim vAT. It has been depreciated over five years at 75%. [The full amount, in other words.] It has now been sold, and the buyer will come to collect it at the end of the month. So I need to draw up a sales invoice, but do I have to calculate vAT on the full amount? Or should I only charge vAT on 75% of the amount? The van has been sold for £12,000. I had thought of splitting it into 9,000 and 3,000, i.e. 75% and 25%, and splitting the 9,000 again from 21% vAT. So 7,438 and 1,562 vAT, and then another sales agreement with a private person for 3,000.

Is this correct?

Does it matter that I was unable to deduct vAT on the purchase?

And then, regarding the purchase of another van, I can recover a maximum of 85% of the vAT, right, if you are in secondary occupation? Because the van is also used privately.

Thank you

Sale price €12,000 incl. VAT? You are selling the van as a self-employed person, so you need to issue an invoice for this: 9917.35 excl. VAT + 2082.64 = 12,000 incl. VAT. You can indeed recover 85% of the vAT for the purchases of your new van. You determine this percentage yourself, but you must be able to justify it in the event of an audit.

Isn't it the case that I only have to pay VAT on 75% of the amount? Because only 75% has been entered?

And on Google, I find these contradictory arguments:

When selling the car, the entrepreneur must also charge VAT. No VAT was deducted at the time of purchases.

If vAT was not deducted at the time of purchase, the entrepreneur does not owe vAT on the sale. You can therefore transfer the car to private ownership without paying additional vAT.Thank you

I am no expert, but I think you will still have to charge vAT. It would be a little too easy to purchase items 'without vAT' and then sell them without vAT. In your example, you are transferring the car to your private ownership, which I believe is different from the sale to a third party because, as a sole proprietor, there is no real distinction between your business and your private life. If you really want a definitive answer, I recommend consulting an accountant. Yes, indeed, in my example it states private, but it should actually be to a third party.

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